[Fixed] iFilter Values 2 - System and translation and confus

[Peter2]

Hi

I have some shell-extensions for different files (DWG, TIF, DOC, PDF, ...), and they all offers values "Author / Keyword / Title". Some of them use the german translation or a mixture of it: Your tool offer me the german words "Autor" and "Titel", but the english word "Keywords".

Activating the
- attribute-columns in Explorer, I see "Creator: pdfplot10.hdi 10.1.48.0";
- displaying the file-properties with "Alt+Enter" I see on the tab "PDF" a "Titel" (german), on Tab "PDF Information" a "Title" (english)
- Tab "PDF Information" shows "Producer: pdfplot ...", and "Creator: AutoCAD 2011
- ....

How can I find a way in this confusion?

Is it possible that your shell-extension uses unique names like "PDF Title" and "PDF Keywords" to make a difference to the other Word-authors and TIF-authors and DWG-authors ....

Regards

Peter
Win XP german, PDF X-Change Viewer 2, PDF Tools 4 (set to german language)

[Chris - Tracker Supp]

Hi Peter.

Thank you for your feedback, I'll get one of our developers to answer your post and we'll see what they have to say about what can be done.

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

Our shell extension doesn't support localization, and you will see English text in names of properties added by shell extension: Producer, Creator, PDF Specification, Security Information, Encrypted, Encryption Level, etc.

Also, PDF Information page isn't localized too.

We don't provide iFilter or any other shell extensions for DWG, TIF, DOC.

[Peter2]

Hello Ivan

Our shell extension doesn't support localization, and you will see English text in names of properties added by shell extension: Producer, Creator, PDF Specification, Security Information, Encrypted, Encryption Level, etc....

Please tell me exactly which values and information are used.
Is there a detailed, common explanation of all Shell-Ext- and iFilter-Values?

...Also, PDF Information page isn't localized too....

Please give me an answer to my question above: Why is there a value used in different ways:
- attribute-columns in Explorer, I see "Creator: pdfplot10.hdi 10.1.48.0";
- Tab "PDF Information" shows "Producer: pdfplot ...", and "Creator: AutoCAD 2011

...We don't provide iFilter or any other shell extensions for DWG, TIF, DOC.

Yes, but this was not the question.
What do you think about my suggestion of using "unique values" like "PDF-Producer", "PDF-Creator" and so on?

Peter

[Peter2]

Please give me an answer. I have to make some decisions depending on these features.

Peter

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Hello Peter2,

I spoke with Ivan, and he is not quite sure why are you asking all those questions and as a result is not quite sure what to answer.
Could you please explain in a bit more details why are those iFilter Values so important for you, and what are the decisions you want to make based on that, and we will look to reply to you as good as we can.

Best,
Stefan

[Peter2]

Hello Ivan and Stephan

there are two different things:

iFilter:
This is only important in that way:
I see in my iFilter-List that AcroRdIF.dll from Adobe is not connected with PDF-Extension and XCShInfo.dll from Tracker is connected with PDF.
Which DLL is better? Which offers more features or more stability?

ShellExtensions:
The meta-data of one or two PDF are nice; the (well-maintained!!) metadata of thousands of files are a powerful database for handling these files. Using my file-manager TotalCommander I use this data for searching, reporting, creating CSV-files and so on. This is why I want a better knowledge of a stable product, where I know which content is written from which "value":
Author - Creator - Producer?
Edited - modification?
Title - Subject - Keywords?

Is the information in tooltip the same as in Explorer-column view? (No, it is not as described above ..)
How can I feed a "metadata-package" from AutoCAD to the equivalent "metadata-package" of PDF?
What is the exact name of the value to define a correct data-extraction?
...

This is why I hope you can give me more info on this topic.

Regards

Peter

[Peter2]

Hi

something new with the "Producer- creator - confusion"?

Regards

Peter

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Hello Peter,

I just spoke with Ivan again, and he said that he will prepare a list of all the properties modified by our Shell Extension, but he can't promise how soon he will be able to do it.
I have made a ticket for this forum topic: #692 so that it will not fall behind and get forgotten.

Best,
Stefan

[Peter2]

Thanks for support. I will wait - like a cat on hot bricks

Peter

[Paul - Tracker Supp]

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

Please give me an answer to my question above: Why is there a value used in different ways:
- attribute-columns in Explorer, I see "Creator: pdfplot10.hdi 10.1.48.0";
- Tab "PDF Information" shows "Producer: pdfplot ...", and "Creator: AutoCAD 2011

Can you send me the document where I can see such behavior?

[Peter2]

Here is a file including screenshots where you can see the "creator / producer-problem."

Peter

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

Do you have the latest version of ShellExt? On my side I have no such problem as shown on your screenshot:



EDIT: I had found that trouble is with XP IColumnProvider implementation in XCShInfo. Now fixed and it will return Creator info for Creator column. Fix will be available in build 190 in days.

[Peter2]

...EDIT: I had found that trouble is with XP IColumnProvider implementation in XCShInfo. Now fixed and it will return Creator info for Creator column. Fix will be available in build 190 in days.

In 190 days?

No, was a joke

Thanks, and merry christmas.

Peter

PS: At the moment I'm not sure - are the infos in Explorer-columns the same infos as in Tooltip?

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Merry Christmas to you too Peter!

If not an exact match I believe the info in the tooltip is a subset of all the info available in those columns Ivan has shown.

Best,
Stefan

[Peter2]

Hi

I have some shell-extensions for different files (DWG, TIF, DOC, PDF, ...), and they all offers values "Author / Keyword / Title". Some of them use the german translation or a mixture of it: Your tool offer me the german words "Autor" and "Titel", but the english word "Keywords".

Activating the
- attribute-columns in Explorer, I see "Creator: pdfplot10.hdi 10.1.48.0";
- displaying the file-properties with "Alt+Enter" I see on the tab "PDF" a "Titel" (german), on Tab "PDF Information" a "Title" (english)
- Tab "PDF Information" shows "Producer: pdfplot ...", and "Creator: AutoCAD 2011
- ........

Fixed in Build 190.

Peter

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

And we are almost ready to release build 191
It should be available in few hours.

Best,
Stefan

[Peter2]

And we are almost ready to release build 191 ...

With some "Fixed"-remarks, isn't it?

Peter

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

With some "Fixed"-remarks, isn't it?

Yes of course!

But for your other topic, regarding the translations - it will probably happen later, as we need to get in touch with the translators and let them update the files.

Best,
Stefan

[Jensen Head]

My question is not related to translation, but close enough to what was discussed in this thread. Can someone provide a complete list of the fields that PDF X-Change Shell Extensions can display as columns in Microsoft Windows File Explorer?

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Hello Jensen Head,

I am not sure if this list is a combination of the ones provided by windows + the ones our Shell Extensions add - but you can right click on a category, select the "More..." option:

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And see all possible columns in there:

Kind regards,
Stefan

[Jensen Head]

you can right click on a category, select the "More..." option

What you suggest to do is to open a complete list of all fields available for display in Windows File Manager. In my case, there are almost 400 of them:

Audio tracks
Bit depth
Changing
Commenting
Contains chapters
Content Accessibility
Content compression
Copying
Creator
Document Assembly
Encrypted
Encryption Level
Form Filling
PDF Specification
Printing
Producer
SAP
Subtitle tracks
Subtitles
URL-адрес
URL-адрес веб-сайта пользователя
Video tracks
а/я
Автоматическая сводка
Автономность
Авторские права
Авторы
Адрес организатора
Адреса необязательных участников
Адреса обязательных участников
Альбом
Атрибуты
Баланс белого
В сети
Важность
Веб-страница
Версия EXIF
Версия продукта
Версия файла
Вид
Владелец
Владелец задачи
Владение файлами
Вложение?
Вложения
Время записи
Время оповещения
Вспышка, режим
Выдержка
Высота
Высота кадра
Выставление счетов
Глубина цвета
Год
Годовщина
Горизонтальное разрешение
Город
Группа
Дата архивирования
Дата выпуска
Дата доступа
Дата завершения
Дата изменения
Дата начала
Дата окончания
Дата отправки
Дата получения
Дата посещения
Дата последнего сохранения
Дата приобретения
Дата создания
Дата создания мультимедиа
Дата создания содержимого
Дата съемки
Дата трансляции
Даты
День рождения
Дети
Диафрагма
Дирижер
Диск
Длительность
Должность
Дом, а/я
Дом, адрес
Дом, город
Дом, почтовый индекс
Дом, республика/край/область
Дом, страна/регион
Дом, телефон
Дом, улица
Дом, факс
Доступность
Другой адрес
Имя
Путь к папке
Размер
Тип
Число страниц
№
...

And it's not obvious in any place which ones are related to PDF.

Above, Peter2 gave you a great idea, to name all the fields (columns) added by your application like this:

using "unique values" like "PDF-Producer", "PDF-Creator" and so on?

When I need to get a complete picture of the PDF metadata in a folder or search results in the future, all I need to do is open the full list of all available fields, and tick all that start with "PDF".

I hope I have expressed myself more clearly now. Sorry for not doing this in my previous post.

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Hello Jensen Head,

As discussed earlier in the thread - the entries we add would likely all be in English - so in your list they would appear on top.
I will ask our devs again for the full list of entries we add but this might be rejected as back in 2011.

Kind regards,
Stefan