[Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
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[Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Sometimes I need to annote the pdfs with math equations or some thing else from another document, as a stamp so that it doesn't corrupt the original content.
Right now, I have to:
1. Selection the content;
2. "New stamp from selection"
3. Place the stamp
4. Delete the created stamp.
What I'm hoping?
1. "A copy of selection as stamp"
With "Edit all content" tool, I select some content in a document, run the requested "A copy of selection as stamp" command, a stamp is created at the same position of the content. So I can cut and copy in another document.
2. "Paste content as stamp"
Same as above, after selection, I can execute the "copy" command, and then "Paste content as stamp" in another document to create a stampe.
Hope reply, thanks any way.
Right now, I have to:
1. Selection the content;
2. "New stamp from selection"
3. Place the stamp
4. Delete the created stamp.
What I'm hoping?
1. "A copy of selection as stamp"
With "Edit all content" tool, I select some content in a document, run the requested "A copy of selection as stamp" command, a stamp is created at the same position of the content. So I can cut and copy in another document.
2. "Paste content as stamp"
Same as above, after selection, I can execute the "copy" command, and then "Paste content as stamp" in another document to create a stampe.
Hope reply, thanks any way.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
HelloTroy_Daniel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:06 am Sometimes I need to annote the pdfs with math equations or some thing else from another document, as a stamp so that it doesn't corrupt the original content.
Right now, I have to:
1. Selection the content;
2. "New stamp from selection"
3. Place the stamp
4. Delete the created stamp.
What I'm hoping?
1. "A copy of selection as stamp"
With "Edit all content" tool, I select some content in a document, run the requested "A copy of selection as stamp" command, a stamp is created at the same position of the content. So I can cut and copy in another document.
2. "Paste content as stamp"
Same as above, after selection, I can execute the "copy" command, and then "Paste content as stamp" in another document to create a stampe.
Hope reply, thanks any way.
What's your goal here though?
Is it just that you don't want to add it to your Stamp selection because you make these stamps so often that you don't want to deal with deleting them and arranging them in the stamp selection/library system?
Why not just take a screenshot and paste that?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hello MedBooster,
Thanks for the suggestion - and better yet - you can use the Snapshot Tool provided by the Editor itself:
You can even use a higher resolution so when you paste content it does look smooth: 300 DPI should be enough for most printing needs as well as looking at a file for up to ~300-400% zoom on screen.
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Thanks for the suggestion - and better yet - you can use the Snapshot Tool provided by the Editor itself:
You can even use a higher resolution so when you paste content it does look smooth: 300 DPI should be enough for most printing needs as well as looking at a file for up to ~300-400% zoom on screen.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Thanks for reply.MedBooster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:37 amHelloTroy_Daniel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:06 am Sometimes I need to annote the pdfs with math equations or some thing else from another document, as a stamp so that it doesn't corrupt the original content.
Right now, I have to:
1. Selection the content;
2. "New stamp from selection"
3. Place the stamp
4. Delete the created stamp.
What I'm hoping?
1. "A copy of selection as stamp"
With "Edit all content" tool, I select some content in a document, run the requested "A copy of selection as stamp" command, a stamp is created at the same position of the content. So I can cut and copy in another document.
2. "Paste content as stamp"
Same as above, after selection, I can execute the "copy" command, and then "Paste content as stamp" in another document to create a stampe.
Hope reply, thanks any way.
What's your goal here though?
Is it just that you don't want to add it to your Stamp selection because you make these stamps so often that you don't want to deal with deleting them and arranging them in the stamp selection/library system?
Why not just take a screenshot and paste that?
The difference between a "stamp" and a "screenshot" is that,
1. a stamp is a vector graph, after flattening it, all the content are editable. However, for a screeshot, it's a bitmap, not able to be further edited.
2. A stamp doesn't contains a background color, while a screenshot does. For me, I always change the pdf render background color, which might look werid to others.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hello Troy_Daniel,
You are correct - the snapshot tool is image based and will have limitations compared to vector objects.
I am afraid that I can not really think of a quicker way to achieve your original needs and keep the content vector.
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Stefan
You are correct - the snapshot tool is image based and will have limitations compared to vector objects.
I am afraid that I can not really think of a quicker way to achieve your original needs and keep the content vector.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
I think a command to wrap the following three should well match my desire:Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:09 am Hello Troy_Daniel,
You are correct - the snapshot tool is image based and will have limitations compared to vector objects.
I am afraid that I can not really think of a quicker way to achieve your original needs and keep the content vector.
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1. Create a "unnamed" stamp from selection(s) temporarily;
2. Place the "unnamed" stamp.
3. Delete the "unnamed" stamp from the "stamp tool".
Is that idea cumbersome?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hello Troy_Daniel,
I will see to discuss your suggestion with a few colleagues - however I do not see this as likely to be implemented.
You say that you do need to create those stamps from selection as you need to ensure that e.g. your Math equations do not alter other text on the pages. Would the below alternative approach work:
If it is text - have you considered instead pasting it in a text box annotation object?
You can make the text box transparent and with no border - so only the text will be visible, and that text will be inside an annotation object - so it won't interfere with the base content text already present on that same page?
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I will see to discuss your suggestion with a few colleagues - however I do not see this as likely to be implemented.
You say that you do need to create those stamps from selection as you need to ensure that e.g. your Math equations do not alter other text on the pages. Would the below alternative approach work:
If it is text - have you considered instead pasting it in a text box annotation object?
You can make the text box transparent and with no border - so only the text will be visible, and that text will be inside an annotation object - so it won't interfere with the base content text already present on that same page?
Kind regards,
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
in what way is all content editable in a vector graph? Do you have an example from one of your equations?Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:07 amThanks for reply.MedBooster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:37 amHelloTroy_Daniel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:06 am Sometimes I need to annote the pdfs with math equations or some thing else from another document, as a stamp so that it doesn't corrupt the original content.
Right now, I have to:
1. Selection the content;
2. "New stamp from selection"
3. Place the stamp
4. Delete the created stamp.
What I'm hoping?
1. "A copy of selection as stamp"
With "Edit all content" tool, I select some content in a document, run the requested "A copy of selection as stamp" command, a stamp is created at the same position of the content. So I can cut and copy in another document.
2. "Paste content as stamp"
Same as above, after selection, I can execute the "copy" command, and then "Paste content as stamp" in another document to create a stampe.
Hope reply, thanks any way.
What's your goal here though?
Is it just that you don't want to add it to your Stamp selection because you make these stamps so often that you don't want to deal with deleting them and arranging them in the stamp selection/library system?
Why not just take a screenshot and paste that?
The difference between a "stamp" and a "screenshot" is that,
1. a stamp is a vector graph, after flattening it, all the content are editable. However, for a screeshot, it's a bitmap, not able to be further edited.
2. A stamp doesn't contains a background color, while a screenshot does. For me, I always change the pdf render background color, which might look werid to others.
I am sure your suggestion is useful, but I think most of us don't understand the usecase.
Is it that you are able to edit each line/element? Are these equations hand-written?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
This is similar to what I was asking for in viewtopic.php?t=40177
The workaround:
The workaround:
- extract the page with the content for the new stamp to a new document
- crop the page to the area you want to make a stamp of
- stamps Pallette > Add New > Add New Stamp from Active Document...
- add a temporary stamp name
- place this stamp on another document
- delete the temporary stamp
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, Mathew
this is what I was going to suggest, just crop the content and make a stamp from that. Do be sure to remove the cropped content else it just gets hidden and your stamp will be wrong:
If the content is a vector, the result will be also.
I am kind of keen to see an example.
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this is what I was going to suggest, just crop the content and make a stamp from that. Do be sure to remove the cropped content else it just gets hidden and your stamp will be wrong:
If the content is a vector, the result will be also.
I am kind of keen to see an example.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Sorry for late reply.Mathew wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:19 pm
This is similar to what I was asking for in viewtopic.php?t=40177
The workaround:All of this is built-in functionality in PDF-XChange and should be able to be a single tool that eliminates all the steps.
- extract the page with the content for the new stamp to a new document
- crop the page to the area you want to make a stamp of
- stamps Pallette > Add New > Add New Stamp from Active Document...
- add a temporary stamp name
- place this stamp on another document
- delete the temporary stamp
It's exactly the same request. However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Thanks for advice. Here I create a sample pdf, the equation is created from the pdf content.MedBooster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:26 pmin what way is all content editable in a vector graph? Do you have an example from one of your equations?Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:07 amThanks for reply.MedBooster wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:37 am
Hello
What's your goal here though?
Is it just that you don't want to add it to your Stamp selection because you make these stamps so often that you don't want to deal with deleting them and arranging them in the stamp selection/library system?
Why not just take a screenshot and paste that?
The difference between a "stamp" and a "screenshot" is that,
1. a stamp is a vector graph, after flattening it, all the content are editable. However, for a screeshot, it's a bitmap, not able to be further edited.
2. A stamp doesn't contains a background color, while a screenshot does. For me, I always change the pdf render background color, which might look werid to others.
I am sure your suggestion is useful, but I think most of us don't understand the usecase.
Is it that you are able to edit each line/element? Are these equations hand-written?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, Troy_Daniel
That makes it so simple I doubt very much the devs would turn that into a tool. Select text then make the stamp is already pretty simple. I will discuss it with the devs though, they may agree. Ultimately it will be at the development team leader's discretion, and it is already pretty easy to do.
Lets see what he says.
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Now why didn't I think of that....It's exactly the same request. However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
That makes it so simple I doubt very much the devs would turn that into a tool. Select text then make the stamp is already pretty simple. I will discuss it with the devs though, they may agree. Ultimately it will be at the development team leader's discretion, and it is already pretty easy to do.
Lets see what he says.
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Paul - Tracker Supp
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
That works in some cases except that if the selection area has any level of complexity (ie linework that extends through the selection): Then it's very difficult to just grab an area for the stamp - you need to crop the page to the area needed. PXE is almost there though. Example attached.Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:35 pm However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
This seems like a reasonable-enough suggestion. I am always in favor of compressing functional complexity and reducing keystrokes. We shouldn't always have to be stringing different functions together to get a procedural result and I would hope it would not be too difficult for the devs to automate a little of that for us.Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:35 pmSorry for late reply.Mathew wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:19 pm
This is similar to what I was asking for in viewtopic.php?t=40177
The workaround:All of this is built-in functionality in PDF-XChange and should be able to be a single tool that eliminates all the steps.
- extract the page with the content for the new stamp to a new document
- crop the page to the area you want to make a stamp of
- stamps Pallette > Add New > Add New Stamp from Active Document...
- add a temporary stamp name
- place this stamp on another document
- delete the temporary stamp
It's exactly the same request. However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, Paul. One cautionary addition. Users should be reminded that your procedure is slightly destructive in that cropping and checking the delete content, etc. boxes is a bit final. So, if the user is cropping as you suggest on a document page, they need to remember that content, etc., will be lost if the user saves the document after cropping to create this faux-stamp. Some less experienced users might miss this point.Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:32 pm Hi, Mathew
this is what I was going to suggest, just crop the content and make a stamp from that. Do be sure to remove the cropped content else it just gets hidden and your stamp will be wrong:
image.png
If the content is a vector, the result will be also.
I am kind of keen to see an example.
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Paul - Tracker Supp
Therefore, the user should be advised to create a duplicate page for the purpose of creating this faux-stamp that can be deleted later. At least, there should be a 'health warning' about cropping pages to create these faux-stamps.
But this is a couple of more steps and tends to underline for me the validity of OP's suggestion for combining several functional steps into one nice new function. I hope the devs can give this favorable consideration.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
"Create a new document and then crop" is definite the solution if you just want "scoped view" of content.Mathew wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:39 pmThat works in some cases except that if the selection area has any level of complexity (ie linework that extends through the selection): Then it's very difficult to just grab an area for the stamp - you need to crop the page to the area needed. PXE is almost there though. Example attached.Plan.pdfTroy_Daniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:35 pm However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
And be optimistic, there is a command "Convert selection to stamp", your steps can be:
[*] Extract the page, which contains the desired content;
[*] Crop to the desired area
[*] Select all
[*] Convert selection to stamp
[*] Cut and paste the stamp
I think these steps are reasonable, if the developers don't plan to add a "regional stamp".
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hope to hear good news.Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:55 pm Hi, Troy_Daniel
Now why didn't I think of that....It's exactly the same request. However, the first several steps can be reduced with the functions "New document/stamp from selection" in PXE. So the request can be reduced into three steps as described before. However, I hope them can be done in one step.
That makes it so simple I doubt very much the devs would turn that into a tool. Select text then make the stamp is already pretty simple. I will discuss it with the devs though, they may agree. Ultimately it will be at the development team leader's discretion, and it is already pretty easy to do.
Lets see what he says.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
I think this is slightly more complex than necessary. Why not simply have a "command" or function that requires only two steps:Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:39 pm ...
"Create a new document and then crop" is definite the solution if you just want "scoped view" of content.
And be optimistic, there is a command "Convert selection to stamp", your steps can be:
[*] Extract the page, which contains the desired content;
[*] Crop to the desired area
[*] Select all
[*] Convert selection to stamp
[*] Cut and paste the stamp
I think these steps are reasonable, if the developers don't plan to add a "regional stamp".
[+] Capture the desired area
[+] Place and drop the content of that capture?
Everything else should be done by the soflware "behind the curtain."
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi guys,
Good news. While the "Feature Request" was denied, this is because it already exists!!!!
Check this:
Note that you MUST use the "Snapshot Tool". Other selection tools will not respect the bounding box and won't crop the content outside the selection.
The "Snapshot" tool will copy the content as it is on the page, images, lines, text etc without attention to those object's boundaries. This is why it is failing with other tools. The "Snapshot Tool" is your friend here yet again!
There is a bug that we will fix, the cropped content is not removed from the stamp, just hidden. It should be removed. We will fix that. RT#6482: Editor :: Create Stamp from Selection should crop content
From what I am seeing here this is exactly what you asked for.
And as a teaser, look at it in Version 10. We added the ability to edit paths in "base content". Apply your stamp, flatten it and check this out:
It not only is vector based, it is highly editable!
Enjoy.
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Good news. While the "Feature Request" was denied, this is because it already exists!!!!
Check this:
Note that you MUST use the "Snapshot Tool". Other selection tools will not respect the bounding box and won't crop the content outside the selection.
The "Snapshot" tool will copy the content as it is on the page, images, lines, text etc without attention to those object's boundaries. This is why it is failing with other tools. The "Snapshot Tool" is your friend here yet again!
There is a bug that we will fix, the cropped content is not removed from the stamp, just hidden. It should be removed. We will fix that. RT#6482: Editor :: Create Stamp from Selection should crop content
From what I am seeing here this is exactly what you asked for.
And as a teaser, look at it in Version 10. We added the ability to edit paths in "base content". Apply your stamp, flatten it and check this out:
It not only is vector based, it is highly editable!
Enjoy.
Kind regards,
Paul - Tracker Supp
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
The crucial part of this is that it is vector-based! And that is good news. How were we to know that you would fix it so fast?Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:35 pm...
And as a teaser, look at it out in Version 10. We added the ability to edit paths in "base content". Apply your stamp, flatten it and check this out:
EditPath.gif
It not only is vector based, it is highly editable!
...
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As long as the original content is, then yes. The content will be used "as is", images will remain images, shapes will remain shapes, etc.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Great news! It's very fantastic! Hope to see V10 soon.Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:35 pm Hi guys,
Good news. While the "Feature Request" was denied, this is because it already exists!!!!
Check this:
StampFromSelection.gif
Note that you MUST use the "Snapshot Tool". Other selection tools will not respect the bounding box and won't crop the content outside the selection.
The "Snapshot" tool will copy the content as it is on the page, images, lines, text etc without attention to those object's boundaries. This is why it is failing with other tools. The "Snapshot Tool" is your friend here yet again!
There is a bug that we will fix, the cropped content is not removed from the stamp, just hidden. It should be removed. We will fix that. RT#6482: Editor :: Create Stamp from Selection should crop content
From what I am seeing here this is exactly what you asked for.
And as a teaser, look at it in Version 10. We added the ability to edit paths in "base content". Apply your stamp, flatten it and check this out:
EditPath.gif
It not only is vector based, it is highly editable!
Enjoy.
Kind regards,
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Hello Troy_Daniel,
And V10 is now out! Please do give it a try!
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And V10 is now out! Please do give it a try!
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
I've given it a try. However, disappointed to find that, it's the function to create a "regional stamp", different from the desired function, "paste as stamp"/"Make a stamp copy from selection".Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:25 pm Hello Troy_Daniel,
And V10 is now out! Please do give it a try!
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, Troy_Daniel
sorry - I am not entirely sure I understand the desired out come or the distinction you are drawing. So one can make a stamp from a "Snapshot Tool" selection, the stamp is vector based if the original was and it gets cropped to the selection.
What is it that you mean when you say "regional stamp" and how does it differ from your desired result described as "paste as stamp"/"Make a stamp copy from selection". As far as I can tell it does make a stamp, and it is not just pasting copied content.
Sorry if I am being obtuse but I do not understand the distinction you are drawing.
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BTW: The function to create a stamp from a Snapshot Tool selection was in Version 9, what I mentioned in new in Version 10 is the ability to edit paths.
sorry - I am not entirely sure I understand the desired out come or the distinction you are drawing. So one can make a stamp from a "Snapshot Tool" selection, the stamp is vector based if the original was and it gets cropped to the selection.
What is it that you mean when you say "regional stamp" and how does it differ from your desired result described as "paste as stamp"/"Make a stamp copy from selection". As far as I can tell it does make a stamp, and it is not just pasting copied content.
Sorry if I am being obtuse but I do not understand the distinction you are drawing.
Kind regards,
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BTW: The function to create a stamp from a Snapshot Tool selection was in Version 9, what I mentioned in new in Version 10 is the ability to edit paths.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
I ran a test with PDF-XChange Editor build 370, by using the "Sample.pdf" here above, the one with the equation.
When you flatten the annotated equation (present as a stamp in that "Sample.pdf"), it can be edited, that is what Troy_Daniel wants.
Now following the logic of Paul O'Rorke, I make a snapshot of the base content equation (the one at the bottom of the page), using the Snapshot tool (of PDF-XChange Editor itself of course), and then paste it and flatten it. Now, it should be editable, but unfortunately it is NOT. It is nothing more than an image. What am I doing wrong?
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When you flatten the annotated equation (present as a stamp in that "Sample.pdf"), it can be edited, that is what Troy_Daniel wants.
Now following the logic of Paul O'Rorke, I make a snapshot of the base content equation (the one at the bottom of the page), using the Snapshot tool (of PDF-XChange Editor itself of course), and then paste it and flatten it. Now, it should be editable, but unfortunately it is NOT. It is nothing more than an image. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
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I see, that would be because the default use of the snapshot tool is to take a picture of the area, so it does exactly that, takes a snapshot of the selected space. If you want to convert it to separate content items, you will need to use the "create stamp from..." function in conjunction with it, to pull the real content items, instead of just getting that picture.
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I see, that would be because the default use of the snapshot tool is to take a picture of the area, so it does exactly that, takes a snapshot of the selected space. If you want to convert it to separate content items, you will need to use the "create stamp from..." function in conjunction with it, to pull the real content items, instead of just getting that picture.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
In other words, it is Bitmap versus Vector Content?TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:57 pm Hello, Willy Van Nuffel
I see, that would be because the default use of the snapshot tool is to take a picture of the area, so it does exactly that, takes a snapshot of the selected space. If you want to convert it to separate content items, you will need to use the "create stamp from..." function in conjunction with it, to pull the real content items, instead of just getting that picture.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Indeed, and that leads us back to the start of this thread, a feature request for having the possibility to copy base-content and paste it like a vector-Stamp elsewhere, without having to pass via the creation of a new stamp.
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Hi, PHK
yes, the default behavior of the Snapshot Tool is to take a rasterized image. So there are two key things that need to have attention paid to:
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yes, the default behavior of the Snapshot Tool is to take a rasterized image. So there are two key things that need to have attention paid to:
- You MUST use the Snapshot Tool in order to get the selection cropped.
- You MUST use the "create stamp from..." function to keep the content editable
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, all,
I think Willy you posted a comment here that was deleted? I saw someone comment that the request was to be able to copy/paste the cropped vectors without making a stamp.
That is possible, we can make an option for the snapshot tool to copy the vectors so that a simple paste operation pasts the cropped vector objects. The problem is that what is copied will only be usable in a PDF. The Snapshot Tool rasterizes the content to make an image that can be pasted an any number of different applications. If we tell the Snapshot tool to copy (and crop) vector objects the contents copied to the Windows clipboard will only be useable in a PDF.
I managed to extract agreement from the development team leader to look into it, a ticket has been raised, however be aware that it is a bit of a "can of worms" that could break existing functionality and some thought will have to go into it's design.
RT#6483: Feature Request :: Editor :: Snapshot Tool option to copy vector based content. is the ticket, it is considered low priority and long term, but it is officially going to be considered.
I hope that helps
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I think Willy you posted a comment here that was deleted? I saw someone comment that the request was to be able to copy/paste the cropped vectors without making a stamp.
That is possible, we can make an option for the snapshot tool to copy the vectors so that a simple paste operation pasts the cropped vector objects. The problem is that what is copied will only be usable in a PDF. The Snapshot Tool rasterizes the content to make an image that can be pasted an any number of different applications. If we tell the Snapshot tool to copy (and crop) vector objects the contents copied to the Windows clipboard will only be useable in a PDF.
I managed to extract agreement from the development team leader to look into it, a ticket has been raised, however be aware that it is a bit of a "can of worms" that could break existing functionality and some thought will have to go into it's design.
RT#6483: Feature Request :: Editor :: Snapshot Tool option to copy vector based content. is the ticket, it is considered low priority and long term, but it is officially going to be considered.
I hope that helps
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
I agree with your assessment that OP's request was to have this functionality without having to create new stamps. I also support the request for that functionality. But being able to do it by using Stamps for vector-based content is better than nothing. One downside of Stamps that we are not talking about too much is that these Stamps are "there" until you take the action of deleting them, leading to Stamp Bloat.Willy Van Nuffel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:42 pm ...
Indeed, and that leads us back to the start of this thread, a feature request for having the possibility to copy base-content and paste it like a vector-Stamp elsewhere, without having to pass via the creation of a new stamp.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
P. S. It should be noted that the subject line for this thread is "Convert selection to stamp" and, narrowly speaking, that is now possible. On the other hand, much of the thread discussion relates to copying selected vector-based content for insertion in a document elsewhere without creating stamps which is obviously a more difficult challenge that may or may not be possible.
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Indeed it is more than that it is "copying selected vector-based content for insertion in a document elsewhere without creating stamps while also cropping objects that cross the selection boundary".
You are correct. It is not trivial.
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
After rethinking the post title, the original post title is unclear, I think it should be change into: Make vector-based stamp annotation without creating stamp(s) in Stamp Tool, it might be more explanatory.Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:57 pm Hi, Troy_Daniel
sorry - I am not entirely sure I understand the desired out come or the distinction you are drawing. ...
What is it that you mean when you say "regional stamp" and how does it differ from your desired result described as "paste as stamp"/"Make a stamp copy from selection". As far as I can tell it does make a stamp, and it is not just pasting copied content.
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My final goal for this "feature request" is, "place a stamp annotation on the document", meeting the requirement:
1. The content is already in the document. After selecting it/them with the "edit all content" tool, I can "copy", and "paste as stamp [annotation]";
2. The final goal can now be achieved with sever steps: "Select → New stamp from selection → Place the stamp → Delete the stamp from the Stamp Tool". The final step is needed because the stamp is used only ONCE.
However, for requirement 2, theses steps can be used quite often, much too key strockes and mouse clicks, so I hope to simply it into three steps:
1. Select
2, Copy(Ctrl+C)
2. Paste as stamp without creating stamp in the Stamp Tool, (thks for @PHK)
Or two steps:
1. Select
2. Make a stamp copy/make a stamp annotation/Convert to stamp
I hope I explain the idea clear this time.
Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
If something can be done along these lines, I would hope that you could go for Troy-Daniel's two-step suggestion below.
But I would stay away from the whole "stamp" notion and figure out a way to have just the selected vector-based content stored in some sort of flash memory, sort of like Windows Clipboard but without the bitmap-only limitation.Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:12 am ...Or two steps:
1. Select
2. Make a stamp copy/make a stamp annotation/Convert to stamp
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Hello PHK,
Maybe the confusion here is that you go though a "Snapshot" tool - which is mostly associated with raster/bitmap final result - and indeed that is what is placed in the clipboard, however it is this same tool that you can use as a "selector with anything outside of the selected box cut off" - that you can use to effectively select vector content as well.
@y Troy_Daniel - thanks for the clarification - indeed that makes the request clearer - however given that the "snapshot" tool does provide a viable solution (albeit with an extra step or two) to achieve the desired final result - I do not think that our devs are looking at implementing your request as is for the time being!
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Maybe the confusion here is that you go though a "Snapshot" tool - which is mostly associated with raster/bitmap final result - and indeed that is what is placed in the clipboard, however it is this same tool that you can use as a "selector with anything outside of the selected box cut off" - that you can use to effectively select vector content as well.
@y Troy_Daniel - thanks for the clarification - indeed that makes the request clearer - however given that the "snapshot" tool does provide a viable solution (albeit with an extra step or two) to achieve the desired final result - I do not think that our devs are looking at implementing your request as is for the time being!
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I am not sure exactly what the above means, but does it not imply that Troy_Daniel (and the rest of us) can simply use the Snapshot tool to achieve what he desires?Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:45 am ...however it is this same tool that you can use as a "selector with anything outside of the selected box cut off" - that you can use to effectively select vector content as well...
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hello PHK,
You can use the snapshot tool for marking an area of a page - that you can later create a stamp from.
However Troy_Daniel asks to be able to "copy" that selection so that he can paste it in another file without going through the stamp process. There are other ways to select content - however those will not "trim" any vector content that e.g. spans the selection.
However as I said above - it is not likely that we will be implementing such a feature anytime soon!
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You can use the snapshot tool for marking an area of a page - that you can later create a stamp from.
However Troy_Daniel asks to be able to "copy" that selection so that he can paste it in another file without going through the stamp process. There are other ways to select content - however those will not "trim" any vector content that e.g. spans the selection.
However as I said above - it is not likely that we will be implementing such a feature anytime soon!
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Sorry to be so dense on this but if the user selects an area with the Snapshot tool, it gets saved to the Windows Clipboard, no? If the user opens another document they can paste that into that new destination from Clipboard without using Stamps, no?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Now I am confused. Should the last step her not be "Remove Stamp"? I thought the whole point was to avoid making a stamp in the collection?Troy_Daniel wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:12 am
The final goal can now be achieved with sever steps: "Select → New stamp from selection → Place the stamp → Delete the stamp from the Stamp Tool". The final step is needed because the stamp is used only ONCE.
2. Make a stamp copy/make a stamp annotation/Convert to stamp
If I understand correctly the request is for:
1. Select content with the Snapshot Tool
2. Paste cropped non-rasterized content as stamp.
Nothing else. I do not believe we need to actually do the "Create stamp from" part if this is happening programmatically and does not need a stamp in the Stamps Palette. I will need confirmation, but I expect it should be possible to just place the content "as a stamp" like we already do with the Insert Images feature. With that one can insert an image and it can be applied as a stamp.
I will need confirmation, and as Stefan says, this ticket has been set to low priority, so while it should happen it is not going to happen right away.
Does that fit the expectations?
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Hi, guys,
Pasting as a stamp can be done and will be done. A second ticket has been raised, RT#6485: Feature Request :: Editor :: Paste Base content as stamp
This one is to add the ability to paste base content as a stamp. This already happens when the contents of the clipboard is an image, we will add an "as stamp" to the paste when the clipboard contains base content.
So rather than the one original tool requested, you will get two; one is the option to make a stamp out of a Snapshot Tool selection, the other is to paste base content as a stamp.
The latter will be agnostic of what tool was used to copy. If you drag a selection using the "Snapshot Tool" the content in the clipboard will be cropped and so too the paste, use another selection tool, like for example the "Edit Objects Tool" and the copied contents will not be cropped nor the pasted content. There will still be a "paste as stamp" option regardless of how the base content was copied into the clipboard.
I do believe this will give the originally requested copy/paste functionality as well as the option to add it to the Stamps Palette.
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Not quite, it won't be pasted as a vector, it will get rasterized.
Pasting as a stamp can be done and will be done. A second ticket has been raised, RT#6485: Feature Request :: Editor :: Paste Base content as stamp
This one is to add the ability to paste base content as a stamp. This already happens when the contents of the clipboard is an image, we will add an "as stamp" to the paste when the clipboard contains base content.
So rather than the one original tool requested, you will get two; one is the option to make a stamp out of a Snapshot Tool selection, the other is to paste base content as a stamp.
The latter will be agnostic of what tool was used to copy. If you drag a selection using the "Snapshot Tool" the content in the clipboard will be cropped and so too the paste, use another selection tool, like for example the "Edit Objects Tool" and the copied contents will not be cropped nor the pasted content. There will still be a "paste as stamp" option regardless of how the base content was copied into the clipboard.
I do believe this will give the originally requested copy/paste functionality as well as the option to add it to the Stamps Palette.
enjoy
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
Excellent, Paul. The Community looks forward to it!
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Re: [Feature Request] Convert selection to stamp
It's what exactly I'm expecting.Paul - Tracker Supp wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:28 pm
.... A second ticket has been raised, RT#6485: Feature Request :: Editor :: Paste Base content as stamp
....
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Oh wow YES. I love the new "stamp from selection" tool.
Thank you!
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