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Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Is this a thing? Can I enable this somewhere?
Let's say you are using the pen-tool by left-clicking and holding, could you right-click and hold to switch to the hand tool until you release the right-click button again?
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I know I can use the middle button (scroll-wheel button) to enter scroll-mode, but I prefer being able to temporarily switch to hand mode by right-clicking. Then you would simply hold right-click, and move around by holding the left click button, thus you would be able to release left-click at points and move around more accurately. – without having to switch between hand mode and the tool you're using

I understand that this is a more mouse-specific question/request, it is not really easy to achieve this on a trackpad/mousepad, but I'd say that when using a mouse this would prove to be quite useful.
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Hello, MedBooster

At the moment this is not possible, the closest we can offer is the option to have the hand tool selected for touch movement while the stylus is used for other tools on touchscreen devices.
Most apps do seem to use a middle- or right-click drag, like you suggested, unfortunately, unless we see more demand, this is not likely to be a priority request.
RT#6425: FR: hotkey to temporarily use hand tool

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TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:16 pm Hello, MedBooster

At the moment this is not possible, the closest we can offer is the option to have the hand tool selected for touch movement while the stylus is used for other tools on touchscreen devices.
Most apps do seem to use a middle- or right-click drag, like you suggested, unfortunately, unless we see more demand, this is not likely to be a priority request.
RT#6425: FR: hotkey to temporarily use hand tool

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Excellent idea! A hotkey! (but I don't think you can set hotkeys to right/left-click?)

Anyway, what about for example enabling the hand tool for the duration that you hold in Shift on your keyboard?
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TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:16 pm Hello, MedBooster

At the moment this is not possible, the closest we can offer is the option to have the hand tool selected for touch movement while the stylus is used for other tools on touchscreen devices.
Most apps do seem to use a middle- or right-click drag, like you suggested, unfortunately, unless we see more demand, this is not likely to be a priority request.
RT#6425: FR: hotkey to temporarily use hand tool

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Also, I was not exclusively referring to the pen-tool, the same would apply to using the rectangle tool.. arrow tool... typewriter tool.... to hold right click to temporarily switch to the hand tool
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Hello, MedBooster

Regarding your first reply, Yes, that is among the examples I provided in the ticket. There is no reason that a hardcoded hotkey cannot function with the mouse buttons, it is simply that we do not allow customization to touch those buttons, to avoid problematic situations.
If the dev team can decide on a key to use for this (like using shift while resizing an object to "lock" its scale) than this should be possible.

For your second, yes I was simply providing the stylus function as an example of the only system we currently offer to provide anything akin to what you are looking for at the moment. hopefully we can allow this in the future.

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Hello, Medbooster!

It turns out that there already is a hotkey for this and I was unaware, though it is not currently re-bindable. if you hold the spacebar while dragging, the hand tool will be activated temporarily, then switch back to the last used tool when you release it!

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TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:49 pm Hello, Medbooster!

It turns out that there already is a hotkey for this and I was unaware, though it is not currently re-bindable. if you hold the spacebar while dragging, the hand tool will be activated temporarily, then switch back to the last used tool when you release it!

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This is not working with a touchpad (haven't tested with a mouse yet)

The touchpad is disabled when I hold space, so it switches to the hand tool , but I am not able to use it. Would have been great to be able to change the keyboard shortcut for it, that is to be held down.
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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There may be a hardware solution depending on your devices.

For instance, there is a fair amount of customization available for Wacom touchpads and sytlii and Logitech mice. In some cases, you can have app-specific actions associated with user actions on the interface device. Then, you can have right-clicks do one thing in PDF-XCE and something else in other apps.
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Hello, PHK
MedBooster wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:03 pm This is not working with a touchpad (haven't tested with a mouse yet)
I have just tested this with our surface device here, and the touchpad does seem to work without issue while holding space, on the other hand, the touchscreen does not. I expect that the issue with the touchpad is, as PHK suggest, something device settings specific, as we do have the ability to work with this if it is treated as a normal mouse input.
Regarding touchscreen compatibility, as we offer other auto-switch functionality with stylus/finger touch interpretation, I am unsure if this is something which we plan to offer because of potential conflict (I also expect it is fairly uncommon that you would have a physical keyboard connected and want to use it whilst you are using the touchscreen actively).

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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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TrackerSupp-Daniel wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:53 pm Hello, PHK
MedBooster wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:03 pm This is not working with a touchpad (haven't tested with a mouse yet)
I have just tested this with our surface device here, and the touchpad does seem to work without issue while holding space, on the other hand, the touchscreen does not. I expect that the issue with the touchpad is, as PHK suggest, something device settings specific, as we do have the ability to work with this if it is treated as a normal mouse input.
Regarding touchscreen compatibility, as we offer other auto-switch functionality with stylus/finger touch interpretation, I am unsure if this is something which we plan to offer because of potential conflict (I also expect it is fairly uncommon that you would have a physical keyboard connected and want to use it whilst you are using the touchscreen actively).

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It's OK, I am mostly using an external mouse anyways – SO thank you for informing me of SPACE being the hotkey
It is working well with my Venus Utechsmart pro mouse :)
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I got a question along the same lines....

What about using the select text tool, is there a "hold" shortcut for that?

E.g. holding Shift to hold and drag when using a mouse (and the active tool is something else) would have also been nice! :D
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Hello MedBooster,

As far as I am aware - it's only "space bar" for the hand tool.

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Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 11:30 am Hello MedBooster,

As far as I am aware - it's only "space bar" for the hand tool.

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nevermind what I said about shift, holding shift is to enable horizontal scrolling....

but it wouldn't be a bad idea to let people add their own "hold" keys in the shortcut settings.

As your shortcut settings are really good, like in adobe premiere/da vinci resolve.
In Word you annoyingly can't search for keyboard shortcuts like you can in PDF-xce... and there's no many functions you can bind to a keyboard shortcut... so good job with that. It makes a huge difference.
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Re: Hold right click to move (hand tool) [Question]

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Hello MedBooster,

I will bring this up for discussion with a colleague from the dev team - however I can not make any promises!

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