Bug? Merge Page Order Reverse

[PHK]

[WITHDRAWN]

The User Guide Product Guide is silent on what is meant in these options. I subsequently inferred what is meant by "Reverse" which was different from what I needed.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello, PHK

These do reverse, Page numbering occurs by default horzontally, (left to right, then down).
If you choose vertical, it occurs top to bottom, then right.
Horizontal reverse will place pages right to left, and then down.
While vertical reversed will go top to bottom, and then left.
See attached Gif showing each mode:

Kind regards,

[PHK]

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These do reverse, Page numbering occurs by default horzontally, (left to right, then down).
If you choose vertical, it occurs top to bottom, then right.
Horizontal reverse will place pages right to left, and then down.
While vertical reversed will go top to bottom, and then left.
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Yes, I now get that. I was looking for a "reverse" of the order of pages merged rather than just the layout.

This could be better documented.

Also, it would be nice to be able to reverse the order.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello, PHK

You can reverse the page order by using this button:

Kind regards,

[PHK]

....You can reverse the page order by using this button...

Yes, if "All" is selected but not if it is a custom discontinuous selection.

Still, I am having fun with new uses (to me) of Merge Pages, having just created a single-sheet matrix of 54x12 Letter-Size PDFs.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello, PHK

It most certainly does still work with custom selections, even properly using the subset options:

Kind regards,

[PHK]

Hmmm, I will have to re-look at what I am doing/not doing...

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

[PHK]

But even more useful to me, I have discovered that the merge order respects the Bookmarks-driven page order!

That is, if one has pages linked to Bookmarks and then orders those Bookmarks in the desired sequence regardless of where the pages are in the file, the Merge-Pages function will create a new page adhering to that sequence.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

[PHK]

Hello, PHK

You can reverse the page order by using this button:
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Kind regards,

Whilst I hate to loop back on this issue, I am still finding that ticking the box as you suggest does not reverse the page order.

[Tracker Supp-Stefan]

Hello PHK,

I definitely get reversed results with this ticked or not:

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Or are you trying to get some different arrangement from originally consecutively ordered pages? If you do - can you please share what you are trying to achieve at your end? Please note that is you print 1 by 2 or 2 by 1 some of the configurations might look identical. When you have e.g. 4 x 4 pages as per my above images - changes should be much more obvious!

Kind regards,
Stefan

[PHK]

At Stefan's request, I am hereby sharing my experience.

The upper-right scenario is the Page Placement Vertical Reversed option but the pages do not seem reversed to me.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello, PHK

You have a single page with "2000" and "2001" on it, causing this to appear a bit more confusing that it is, but an important thing to remember is this:

Page numbering occurs by default horzontally, (left to right, then down).
If you choose vertical, it occurs top to bottom, then right.
Horizontal reverse will place pages right to left, and then down.
While vertical reversed will go top to bottom, and then left.

The "vertical" and "vertical reverse" both start going from Top to bottom, then they differ by going left or right. If you choose to reverse page order, these two will work the same way, going bottom to top, and then either right or left (you see no difference between them because you only have a single column of pages).
You can see that on both cases, the page order is indeed reversed between the left and right sides of your examples (With reverse page enabled, or disabled, respectively).

Kind regards,

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello again,

To exemplify, I have attached, probably the single longest Gif I have ever made.

Kind regards,

[PHK]

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To exemplify, I have attached, probably the single longest Gif I have ever made.
PDFXEdit_Vccq50WisD.gif

Thank you for the long GIF, I appreciate the effort.

Next, I apologize for the confusing example; you are right the previously-merged pages add nothing except confusion.

Now, let me try a further simplification. Whilst you keep offering multi-column examples, I am primarily interested in single-column applications like this below and the ones I offered earlier. So, may I ignore all the left-to-right and right-to-left stuff for purposes of this discussion? I have taken out all the stuff about Page Range selection because I am happy that works as I expect it to. My issue right from the beginning is and was Page Order in the Page Placement and Scaling section. The below is about as simple as I can make it. Both examples were constructed from a single selection of four consecutive pages.

Shouldn't the page order be different one example to the other? I still don't see the reversal.

N. B. The Horizontal Reverse selection works the way I would expect.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

Hello, PHK

When you only have a single column, you will not see any difference between the two vertical modes, because both go down vertically first, and then, go either left or right. Reversing the left or right direction of the ordering has no effect on a single purely vertical group.

If you wish to ignore multi-column handling than the Vertical and Vertical reversed options are effectively the exact same option, use the "reverse order" checkbox instead for this situation, as that will invert the pages.

Kind regards,

[PHK]

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When you only have a single column, you will not see any difference between the two vertical modes, because both go down vertically first, and then, go either left or right. Reversing the left or right direction of the ordering has no effect on a single purely vertical group.

If you wish to ignore multi-column handling than the Vertical and Vertical reversed options are effectively the exact same option, use the "reverse order" checkbox instead for this situation, as that will invert the pages.

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OK, I find that counter-intuitive but I will try to wrap my head around it. Over and out.

[TrackerSupp-Daniel]

[PHK]

Jeez, I hate like hell to re-open this thread but....

What I am trying to do is to create a single-page data tapestry from multiple, non-continuous pages and I want those pages to show as annual columns in reverse order from the original file. The background is that the file was originally created in crap software before I discovered PDF-XCE wherein it was easier to add incremental pages to a folder at "the top" rather than the bottom. When I combined pages they are unfortately in reverse chronological order.

Now, I see that the Merge Pages does not do what I expect it to do. So, I select a few pages out of hundreds and do this

but I get this new page immediately thereafter, as this thumbnail shows.

In a nutshell, it seems the Merge Pages functions did not do what it promised to do.

I understand it is so zoomed-out that it might be hard to understand. The best thing to do is to focus on the "2008" at the top of the first screenshot and then at the bottom of the second. Take my word for it that all the pages in the original file are, although not continuous, in the reverse sequence, as in the second screenshot. Even though I have ticked the box to reverse the page range sequence and the preview box shows that it will be reversed, it is not when the new page is produced.

What am I doing wrong? We know it is all down to me, as there cannot be a bug in the product.

[Ivan - Tracker Software]

Looks like there is an issue with handling "Reverse Order" in the Merge Pages operation. We will fix the issue in the next build

[PHK]

Looks like there is an issue with handling "Reverse Order" in the Merge Pages operation. We will fix the issue in the next build

Thank you for looking into this for the user community. I look forward to seeing that fix in the next build. It will be very helpful to me as I construct my DATAPESTRIES which are single-sheet merged mosiac assemblages of individual pages of data where all the data is easily accessible.

[Paul - Tracker Supp]