Well! There I was, banging on about the highlight feature, only to find my poor wee post locked? https://forum.pdf-xchange.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=37781
And! JUST when I was going to post the pièce de résistance!
Or, at least a wee breakthrough.
I realized that what was happening was a sort of dual logical fallacy - equivocation & missing the point.
What I WOULD have said, in my own poor locked-out thread - was that to call a system where...
...does not describe the way a bookmark works in any fashion. Thus, the equivocation.If there is a bookmark at the top and bottom of every page, It is entirely expected that the one at the bottom will be skipped, if you do not line up the viewing area perfectly to have the last sliver of the page where this "page end" bookmark actually starts.
And...the frustration. In the same way if you called a cone shaped piece of paper an ice cream cone. Sure! It's cone shaped but...as far as acting like an ice cream cone it doesn't work.
Returning to the bookmark metaphor - there's never been an actual bookmark I've ever put in a book which lost it's relevance. I put the bookmark in the book and...there it remained - visible no mater where I held the book. And, if I put a yellow post-it on each of 10 pages to let me know I was in the Age of Reason, then...each one of those pages I turned to...no doubt where I am.
So, thus the equivocation. We're CALLING what we have here a bookmark but, in actual point of fact, it's not able to function as one.
Which leads me to what I would suggest - applying some OTHER feature of the PDF protocol that would work. That is, building a legitimate, single-use pane that just shows a person where they are as they scroll through a document.
Now! Is that a big deal? Important? I hasten to show as support that @igorlima seemed to be working in the law. And writes:
And! Not only did he COMMENT on a post he had not written, he went to great lengths to illustrate it...TWICE! Making first an elegant GIF, and following that up with a movie.But, as I think we are all agreeing here, the way that the highlight works now can cause those frustrations when you have some bookmarks disposed in an certain way. Unfortunately, I feel that this "way" happens a good amount of times for me, as I really cherish the bookmark feature and use a lot.
Considering that I already think the bookmark feature is really good in PDF X-CHANGE and its essentiality on navigating through huge documents with no images and a lot of topics and subtopics bookmarked, I really wish that this "highlight bookmark feature" could indicate multiple bookmarks at once if they share totally or partially the same page location.
A movie.
About bookmarks.
https://forum.pdf-xchange.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=37781#p156011
WHY?
Here comes the missing the point part - because, at least for me, and I'm guessing for Igor, too - I make my living reading and RE-READING works that I need to comment on. Not knowing if I'm in the
Theory
vs
Practice
section of what I'm reading means I've just got to drag around a bunch of windows and then...do it over. Again. And, again, and again.
Worse, yet - each time I'm in that situation I need to actively IGNORE the wrong message I'm getting from the software. Because - we call them bookmarks but, they don't work that way.
Having a feature in the software that actually shows the WRONG bookmarks is...the same as having no bookmarks at all.
Returns me to my own example, and Igor's. Igor wrote:
To sayWhen those things happens I get confused on how this highlight bookmark feature works and I start questing myself if I'm adding bookmark the wrong or the less efficient way.
completely misses what I, we're?, saying - building out an elaborate system - imagine the time investment among users tothis (being the intended handling)
book
mark
every
section
and then, when it doesn't function at all in the way "bookmarks" do themselves to continue by clearly and in detail explain that this is the way it works. - well...then you've missed the point.
Not only missed the point, but only offered an argument from definition! Yet another informal fallacy.
To say of the software...
...actually makes no sense at all, if you're calling this a "bookmark". Only if you define bookmarks as being tied to XY coordinates.It is entirely expected that the one at the bottom will be skipped, if you do not line up the viewing area perfectly to have the last sliver of the page where this "page end" bookmark actually starts.
As Igor said:
I think the most striking word here is "cherish". And, it is so well chosen! Exactly how I feel. If you're faced with a TOME - no physical copy and ONLY the three screens on your desk with which to make a comparative analysis of what it's telling you - 500+ pages...you can BET bookmarks will be cherished.I really cherish the bookmark feature and use a lot.
Considering that I already think the bookmark feature is really good in PDF X-CHANGE and its essentiality on navigating through ruge documents with no images and a lot of topics and subtopics bookmarked, I really wish that this "highlight bookmark feature" could indicate multiple bookmarks at once if they share totally or partially the same page location.
Again, from Igor:
This is the part where I feel so disappointed. Because, for me, with the work I'm asked to do, I'm usually boiling my wee brain - slogging through some FAIRLY abstruse theoretical things.When those things happens I get confused on how this highlight bookmark feature works and I start questing myself if I'm adding bookmark the wrong or the less efficient way.
Then, I find myself in a hole, and need to climb right out due to the design of the program.
I hasten to point out above - the software CONFUSES. Software for reading.
I've submitted similar things in the app before. All met with the same response. By definition - it's working! There's no universe where a
READING
application is unable to execute
BOOKMARKS
That would be similar to a cup that couldn't hold water.
And, herein lies the rub (REAL conclusion here, I promise!)
If I read that my software for readers was confusing people...as they READ...that, for me, would be a 5-alarm fire.
In fact, I'd have that fixed in a month's time. Truly. As a "feature" of reading software....it's kind of unimaginable that it would be allowed to persist. All hands on deck.
I encourage the same response from the team here.
MY SUGGESTION
Apply some OTHER feature of the PDF protocol that would work. That is, building a legitimate, single use pane that just shows a person where they are as they scroll through a document.