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Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by MPdesign » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:37 pm

Hi,
I am a long time user and I love the product. The one, and only one, thing that it will not do for me - is automatically turn pages the right way.

I will get pdfs of about 50-300 pages. They are scans. Some pages are turned one way and others the other way.

I currently have to pay Adobe for Acrobat DC because if I let it OCR scan the pages, it will also turn them so that they are all facing the right way (text in the direction we have here). I kinda hate Adobe and hate paying for this.

Will the current upgrade that I just got a few weeks do this? If so, I cannot find it. Please let me know.

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by TrackerSupp-Daniel » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:30 pm

Hello MPdesign,

I am afraid that this is not yet possible within the Editor. There is an active feature request for this topic already however, so I will make it known that there is more desire for this feature.

Have an excellent day!
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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Willy Van Nuffel » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:44 pm

Hello Tracker Support,

1) Do you already have some news about the possibility to apply OCR to pages with rotated scanned text (90° clockwise/counterclockwise) ?
This is often needed with pages containing large tables or images of slides.
You can of course turn the concerning pages before applying OCR, but in case you have a lot of (large) documents to process, this solution is not very handy.

2) Additionally, do you have news about the complete conversion of scanned pages to real text (with real images) ?
Currently, the result is only a "Searchable PDF".

For these two actions (among some others) we still need Ad*be Acr*bat.

Thanks in advance for an answer (and for considering the real implementation of this in PDF-XChange Editor and/or PDF-Tools).

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by TrackerSupp-Daniel » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Hello Willy,

Thank you for the excellent questions, As I am currently unsure of the status on these topics, I have asked the Development team to provide an answer for you. They are a bit busy currently, so it may take some time before they get back to us.

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Willy Van Nuffel » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:24 am

Some idea about when the Development team will get back to us ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:52 pm

Hello Willy,

Just spoke with one of the OCR devs, and he says that we are still investigating this feature - looking to see if we can get all the correct criteria how to differentiate between +90 and -90 degrees rotated pages (And 0 and 180 respectively) . If we manage to get those correctly - the implementation of the feature will not be too far away!

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Willy Van Nuffel » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:41 pm

PDF-XChange Editor version 8.0.330.0

1) OCR on pages with rotated text, still does not work.

2) Announced in the version history = "Enhanced OCR module ... supports creating PDF files with editable text and images", however still not available.


:-(

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by TrackerSupp-Daniel » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:49 pm

Hello Willy,

Could you provide a before an after example of the first issue you have described? with all of my test documents it seems to work correctly.

Regarding the second option, It should be enabled by default, however It is possible that it is not, could you please check the editor preferences, under OCR and see if you have enhanced OCR enabled?
If it is enabled, please send a screenshot of your current OCR settings window so that we can investigate further.

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Willy Van Nuffel » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:14 pm

Attached:

1) PDFs for rotated text
- a single page PDF with an image of a page (extracted from the PDF-XChange Editor manual) and rotated for 90°
- the resulting PDF after OCR
- the resulting PDF after Enhance Scanned Pages (with OCR)

2) Print Screens with settings
- "OCR Pages" settings
- "Enhance Scanned Pages" settings
- Edit > Preferences > "OCR Settings"

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by TrackerSupp-Daniel » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:53 pm

Hello Willy,

It looks like you have the "detect skew...", and "detect rotation..." (as well as the fix content skew and rotation) options disabled in the OCR dialog. Meanwhile, the enhance scanned pages does not currently offer an option to fix rotation, only the entire pages skew.

Finally, seeing your preferences window, you are not actually using the new OCR, "Default" uses our old tesseract engine implementation, please change the option to "Enhanced" and you should find the new OCR will take over.

Can you let us know what the results look like while you are using the new OCR and have the correct options enabled?
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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by Willy Van Nuffel » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:56 pm

The first time I installed the new version 8, I did not uninstall the previous version.
Now, I have first uninstalled PDF-XChange Editor, and then re-installed.

At this time, the new "Enhanced" OCR engine became available and active.
It recognizes rotated text and the OCR-speed has much improved, as well as the resulting PDF.

About the Output Options "Editable Text and Images" and "Fine Page Content.
Enhancement would be appreciated for the case where images like dialog-boxes are involved.
Because these images contain text-elements they are cleaned up, but this is not what I really want.
If it would be possible to not touch this kind of images, that would be great.

Best regards.

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Re: Turn pages automatically the right way

Post by TrackerSupp-Daniel » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:05 pm

Hi Willy,

We are looking into a "zone based" OCR function as an addition to the enhanced suite, however I cannot make any promises about implementation at the moment.

Kind regards,
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