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Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:13 am
by MJN
Hello,

Following the latest update to v.6.0, build 322.5, I've noticed a difference moving comments with the arrow keys -the increments has increased significantly. Whereas before I'd use the arrow keys for small adjustments and arrow keys + shift for large ones, I find myself using the mouse more often to fine-tune comments placements, due to the arrow keys alone moving the comments too far.
Is this intentional from Tracker or has an error crept in?

Regards.

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:36 am
by MJN
I just found this from a while back and it seems the topic has been brought up before, though it doesn't seem to have found a solution as of yet -at least not a published one. I hope it is ok for me to hijack part of a thread in support of this one...
Hi,

I have noticed that in earlier versions of Editor (at least in 316.0), nudging was very flexible - the greater was the zoom, the smaller was the nudge distance. Such behaviour allowed very precise alignment of any objects.
Now, in 321.0, and possibly in several previous versions, the nudge distance seems to be fixed at 1 point regardless of the actual zoom. The movement is visibly rough, and any precise alignment requires use of the mouse. Since the (proper in my opinion) functioning was already implemented before, I see the present behaviour as a step backward.

Regards
Appenzeller


Fri May 05, 2017 12:48 pm

Hello Appenzeller,

I will pass this to our devs and see why this behaviour was changed, and what can be done for future releases.
As soon as I have any further news - I will post them here.

Regards,
Stefan

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:38 am
by Willy Van Nuffel
Please check if it has something to do with 'snapping to grid'.

You can turn this option on/off via Edit > Preferences > Measurement.

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:49 am
by Will - Tracker Supp
Thanks Willy :)(

MJN - Please do check the snapping, as I'm seeing the comments move the same distance as in previous builds.

Thanks,

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:09 am
by MJN
Thanks for your quick replies,

Snapping was off and turning it on didn't change the behavior of how far the arrow keys move the comments (a perimeter line in this instance)...

EDIT: I should add that several of my colleagues who haven't updated does not experience this -using the arrow keys moves the comments seamlessly. They use build 319...

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:14 am
by Willy Van Nuffel
Myself, I am not able to reproduce the wrong behavior with the perimeter tool in PDF-XChange Editor V6 build 322.5

Can you please post a sample PDF ?

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:21 am
by MJN
Myself, I am not able to reproduce the wrong behavior with the perimeter tool in PDF-XChange Editor V6 build 322.5

Can you please post a sample PDF ?
I really appreciate your help on this -attached is a small, cropped sample of my current work ( cropped due to copyrights issues and whatnot!).
I've tried to show how much a single press on an arrow key moves the comment.

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:22 pm
by Willy Van Nuffel
Problem confirmed and indeed also reported by Appenzeller a while ago:
http://www.tracker-software.com/forum3/ ... 4&p=112793

In PDF-XChange V6 build 322.5 the movement via the cursor keys is always 1 point at a time (whatever the zoom level).
With the SHIFT key + cursor, it is 10 points at a time.

In PDF-XChange V6 build 319.0 the movement is incredibly smooth, (probably) 1 pixel at a time (so the movement depends of the zoom level).

Personally, I would plea for a return to that previous behavior (or offering a choice for a movement per pixel or per point - would be perfect).

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:29 pm
by MJN
Personally, I would plea for a return to that previous behavior (or offering a choice for a movement per pixel or per point - would be perfect).
I second that motion!

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:14 pm
by Tracker Supp-Stefan
Hello all,

The same behaviour (movement by pixel - hence dependent on zoom level) was present in the Viewer as well - so I will bring this up for discussion on the next meeting and see why it was changed to the current behaviour and what can be done on the matter!

Regards,
Stefan

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:12 am
by MJN
I will bring this up for discussion on the next meeting and see why it was changed to the current behaviour and what can be done on the matter!
Outstanding!

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:00 am
by Will - Tracker Supp
:)

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:19 am
by MJN
BUMPED!
Anything new on this topic? I know it is a first world problem, but there it is and it is reeeally annoying on a daily basis...

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:36 pm
by Willy Van Nuffel
Indeed, in the most recent build 322.7 of PDF-XChange Editor V6, the movement is still 1 point at a time.

So, just curious if Tracker Support has some more news about this issue ?

Best regards.

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:29 am
by Tracker Supp-Stefan
Hi All,

I am afraid that this functionality is indeed not changed to be as it was in the Viewer.
I will now check again with our devs what our plans are on this and update the topic accordingly.

Regards,
Stefan

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:05 am
by MJN
Thanks for the reply, Stefan.

As the resident XChange-geek, I've cautioned my colleagues against updating until this is fixed...

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:37 am
by Tracker Supp-Stefan
Thanks for the understanding MJN!

Cheers,
Stefan

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:21 pm
by MJN
BUMPED!

It has been a year, and this is the one thing that bugs the heck out of me on a daily basis!

Any news on this? Plz...just a hint...

Summary as provided by Willy Van Nuffel:

The movement via the cursor keys is always 1 point at a time (whatever the zoom level).
With the SHIFT key + cursor, it is 10 points at a time.

In PDF-XChange V6 build 319.0 the movement is incredibly smooth, (probably) 1 pixel at a time (so the movement depends of the zoom level).

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:46 pm
by TrackerSupp-Daniel
Hello MJN,

I am happy to say that it just made it through the pipeline and we have begun working on it.
I do not have a timeline, but know now that it is in progress!

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:58 am
by MJN
Sweet!

Thx a bunch Daniel -that feature alone will perfect the Editor for my workflow :D

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:25 am
by Tracker Supp-Stefan
:D

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:31 pm
by MJN
Just want to say that the new 'nudge'-feature is outstanding!

Re: Moving Comments with arrow keys

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:46 pm
by Tracker Supp-Stefan
:D