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Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:53 am

It's such a cardinal feature, that was always in PDF-XV, but is missing for years now.
All we get is that lame presentation mode which changes the view parameters for the document.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:57 pm

Hello avada,

Thanks for your post. Indeed the full screen mode in the Editor is different than the one we had in the Viewer, and we are working on improving that. I will bring your comments to the attention of our devs on our next meeting so that we can reevaluate the priority of this particular feature.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:16 am

Cool.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Jobijobah » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:04 pm

Hello Dear Dev Team,

Could You P-leaaaase provide a FULL SCREEN HORIZONTAL SCROLLING viewing possibility?


Also, two very longtime needed features that users have been longing for:

-- SMOooooth zooming and Scrolling (no hiccups, no steps, with a light acceleration/deceleration effect (not unlike in prezi presentations).

-- A multipage mode (for the vertical scrolling mode) with more than two pages width), especially when you think of the recent ultra-wide 21:9 monitor craze.

(that last feature can be palliated by printing a multipage of the pdf into one huge pdf, and scrolling/zooming at will inside it, but still quite tedious)

I'll assure you that you'll make so many already happy users of PDF -Xchange pretty much ecstatic.

###*** thank you ***###

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:40 pm

Hello Jobijobah,

Regarding the smooth zoom - it looks cool, but might be problematic - as we need to rerender the pages at each zoom level, so for a heavy file - you will be smooth zooming in/out a blank page and the content will manage to render only after you've stopped zooming. Also I've not seen this feature offered by any other PDF software - so it might not be very practical or even easy to implement.

For the multi page full screen - let's keep the discussion in the other topic (the one where I offered the thumbnails pane as a workaround for now).

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:32 pm

So what became of this? Forgotten?

It's been two years and there's still no fully functional fullscreen mode that one expects from a PDF viewer. Can't configure default view (or to keep the view), nor the visibility of the scrollbar and such.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:18 am

Hello Avada,

We've introduced some changes to how the Editor behaves when changing the zoom level (the screen is no longer completely white), so I will bring this up to the attention of the correct people, and see if we can implement some of the features discussed above now.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:07 pm

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:Hello Avada,

We've introduced some changes to how the Editor behaves when changing the zoom level (the screen is no longer completely white), so I will bring this up to the attention of the correct people, and see if we can implement some of the features discussed above now.

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Thanks. Hopefully this time something will come out of it.

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Post by Will - Tracker Supp » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:59 am

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:28 pm

Hello All,

Just finished my meeting with the devs.
A couple builds ago we introduced a feature in the Editor that will keep the currently rendered image visible while zooming in/out, and until the new zoom level has rendered fully, effectively making smooth zooming in/out on touch devices working.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:34 pm

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:Hello All,

Just finished my meeting with the devs.
A couple builds ago we introduced a feature in the Editor that will keep the currently rendered image visible while zooming in/out, and until the new zoom level has rendered fully, effectively making smooth zooming in/out on touch devices working.

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Okay... I don't see any relevance to the fullscreen mode features that are lacking though...
(Are you sure you meant this to this topic?)

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:36 pm

Hello avada,

The issue with smooth zooming was also discussed above, so yes I do believe my post is in the correct topic.
Apologies - seems like I overlooked the issue with ribbon layout in full screen mode. I will bring it up the next time and then post here again.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:44 pm

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:Hello avada,

The issue with smooth zooming was also discussed above, so yes I do believe my post is in the correct topic.
Apologies - seems like I overlooked the issue with ribbon layout in full screen mode. I will bring it up the next time and then post here again.

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Ah. Okay. Well, I was talking about view mode, scrollbar configurations and such.
Also, it would be nice if advanced search wouldn't cancel full screen mode.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:54 pm

Thanks Avada,

I will also discuss those things, but given that the current Full screen mode is quite different than how the Viewer worked - some of these might not be possible :(

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Thu May 18, 2017 7:10 pm

The lack of proper full screen mode is such a nuisance. Every time I enter I have to set the view to double page and show cover page via hotkeys because of course it becomes inverted.
Of course advance search cancels fullscreen mode, so I need to re-set everything after I used it.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Will - Tracker Supp » Fri May 19, 2017 9:48 am

Hi Avada,

While I understand that this is a frustration for you, it works for 99% of our userbase and we have other, far more pressing bugs and features that require our attention.

As Stefan mentioned, due to the changes made to fullscreen mode, from Viewer to Editor, a lot of these requests are only possible with a fairly large overhaul. The current focus of the developer that would be doing this is on the ribbon toolbar and various other implementations and fixes, so we cannot yet spare the time and we focus on the 'needs of the many' over the 'needs of the few'.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by peedee_5 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:51 pm

Hello Will & the Team,

Thanks for engaging in this conversation. It's refreshing to know that this forum is "alive and kicking" :-).

I'm writing this reply to let you know that there are more people out there who are unhappy and frustrated with the fact that after the much anticipated, although still slightly anticlimactic in my opinion, switch from Viewer to Editor, certain functionalities have been lost - forever, it appears. The previous implementation of the Full Screen Mode was true perfection, at least in my eyes. As I am using the Editor as a PDF reader/viewer most of the time, I now find myself not using the Full Screen Mode at all as it doesn't provide the smooth reading experience it used to. Fiddling with keyboard shortcuts is some way-out but it's cumbersome.

@Avada: You're not alone.

I'm looking forward to seeing a proper Full Screen Mode (literally, I read every Change Log you release looking for updates to this functionality).

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Will - Tracker Supp » Mon May 22, 2017 7:30 am

Hi Peedee_5,

Thanks for adding your voice - that's appreciated. We always like to hear feedback and the more users that request something, the more seriously is it's obviously taken. I'll make note to bring this up and will se what can be done.

For others browsing this topic, please do pitch in and add your voice if you feel the same way!

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Mon May 22, 2017 10:35 am

peedee_5 wrote: @Avada: You're not alone.

I'm looking forward to seeing a proper Full Screen Mode (literally, I read every Change Log you release looking for updates to this functionality).
I did that too. Though I stopped hoping, so now I just check every once in a while if there's any useful feature added.

It's a shame really. Because otherwise PDFXE has many properties to distinguish itself. Such as the sophisticated advanced search.
Also it's baffling, because compared for example to the aforementioned feature fullscreen is just trivial. It mainly needs to retian the view parameters, maybe allow customization of them.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Mon May 22, 2017 11:40 am

Hello Avada,

Appreciate your feedback!
The current full screen implementation has some limitations that are a bit hard to go round, but we do hear your concerns, and as Will said - will have this up for discussion with the devs on our next meeting.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by jylez » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:57 pm

Hi,

I also have issue with full screen mode in editor. The full screen mode in viewer is much better. Sadly, the product has been discontinued.
Also, In the editor full screen mode is it possible to add custom toolbar especially comments and markup for highlighting. It is very much possible to do it in viewer.

One more thing, in the comments and markup toolbar is it possible to see additional highlighter color for quick access instead of first clicking on the defaut yellow and then selecting the one you want.

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Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:40 pm

jylez wrote:Sadly, the product has been discontinued.
Discontinued Products are still available to download.
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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

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How do I quickly access variations of a specific Tool?
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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by avada » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:46 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
jylez wrote:Sadly, the product has been discontinued.
Discontinued Products are still available to download.
That won't help with the Viewer's bugs that won't get fixed and the lack of subpixel AA, which makes it suck for it's main purpose, viewing documents.

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Post by jylez » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:00 am

Willy Van Nuffel wrote:How do I quickly access variations of a specific Tool?
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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by jylez » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:04 am

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
jylez wrote:Sadly, the product has been discontinued.
Discontinued Products are still available to download.
viewer has awful screen resolution on higher resolution windows 10 devices. although editor is a bit better this applies to editor as well.
now i cannot expect this to improve in viewer.

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Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:35 pm

Hello jylez,

Yes it is almost certain that the viewer will not get any visual improvements and changes, so a switch to the Editor is recommended.
We are working on a Ribbon interface for the Editor which should scale better on larger DPI screens.

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Post by JimmyD » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:45 pm

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:We are working on a Ribbon interface for the Editor which should scale better on larger DPI screens.
I'm very glad to hear that PDFX will get a Ribbon interface, I'm really looking forward to this. I always recommend PDFX to people for its features, but many won't give it a chance due to the current UI.

Do you have any ETA on when we can expect this?

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Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:11 pm

Hello JimmyD,

This is the current feature we are working on - so it will be one of the next couple main builds (not the .x ones that are usually to fix a recently discovered bug), but I still do not have a specific release date for that.

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Post by avada » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:12 pm

JimmyD wrote:
Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:We are working on a Ribbon interface for the Editor which should scale better on larger DPI screens.
I'm very glad to hear that PDFX will get a Ribbon interface, I'm really looking forward to this. I always recommend PDFX to people for its features, but many won't give it a chance due to the current UI.

Do you have any ETA on when we can expect this?
On the other hand ribbon interfaces make me want to vomit. As such I hope that the normal UI will remain. One of the main reasons I stopped using Foxit was the ribbon garbage.

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Post by Tracker Supp-Stefan » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:18 pm

Hi Avada,

Yes - the current layout will also remain available - and you will be able to switch between the two!

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Post by JimmyD » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:23 pm

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote:Yes - the current layout will also remain available - and you will be able to switch between the two!
Will the Ribbon have a collapse mode, so that it auto-unhides when you click on the menu, and auto-unhides when you click away?
I would also like a minimalistic read mode, with an auto-hide/unhide status bar or HUD and auto-hide/unhide menu bar. Right now, I'm forced to toggle F8 to see the status bar, which is sadly also linked the toolbar. And I'm forced to toggle F9 for the menus.

I would also prefer that the new UI itself will have a way to make it appear flat, angular and minimalistic, which would make it fit in better with the Windows theme.

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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Patrick-Tracker Supp » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:36 pm

Hi Jimmy,

Thanks for your post. I've forwarded your points to our dev team who have come back with the following:
We will try to satisfy this user in the near future :)

1. The "Auto-hide/show Ribbon" feature will be added because its standard ribbon-feature
2. More Flat UI - we will think about it too
3. Read-Mode - I guess it might be added a bit later, after Ribbon implementation
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Re: Won't this ever have a proper fullscreen mode?

Post by Peter 123 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:41 am

Tracker Supp-Stefan wrote: Yes - the current layout will also remain available - and you will be able to switch between the two!
I just wanted to say already in advance a big thank you for this solution. :D

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Post by Will - Tracker Supp » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:27 am

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Post by JimmyD » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:09 pm

Patrick-Tracker Supp wrote:Hi Jimmy,

Thanks for your post. I've forwarded your points to our dev team who have come back with the following:
We will try to satisfy this user in the near future :)

1. The "Auto-hide/show Ribbon" feature will be added because its standard ribbon-feature
2. More Flat UI - we will think about it too
3. Read-Mode - I guess it might be added a bit later, after Ribbon implementation
Cheers!
Many thanks for taking this into consideration.

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Post by Will - Tracker Supp » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:28 pm

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