V1.0 Build 0018 Issues

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:42 pm

Hi,

I'm testing out PDF-XChange Viewer and have a few comments:

Under Print, the "options" button does nothing.

There should be an overwrite warning if you save over an existing file.

I added a Sticky Note and some text, saved the file and opened it in Adobe Reader V7.0.7. Adobe prints the Sticky Note icon, but not the text.

I added a Call-Out note and some text, saved the file and opened it in Adobe Reader V7.0.7. Adobe says its an invalid font and displays big dots instead of the text.

Thanks,

Tom

Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:33 am

Hi Tom,

CONURE wrote:Under Print, the "options" button does nothing.

Yes, this "Options" button is reserved for features like Postscript, Color Management, etc. and will be used later. Maybe for now would be better to hide it.

CONURE wrote:There should be an overwrite warning if you save over an existing file.

If you use command "Save As..." or "Save Copy As.." there is warning. But "Save" command doesn't show it.

CONURE wrote:I added a Sticky Note and some text, saved the file and opened it in Adobe Reader V7.0.7. Adobe prints the Sticky Note icon, but not the text.

Sticky Note text will not be printed by Acrobat even it was created by Acrobat itself - note: text isn't markup within a PDF.

CONURE wrote:I added a Call-Out note and some text, saved the file and opened it in Adobe Reader V7.0.7. Adobe says its an invalid font and displays big dots instead of the text.

Can you send us such sample file?.

Please zip any files attached to your reply

Thanks

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:39 pm

Thanks for the responses! I still disagree with no overwrite dialog on Save!

Sample file attached with font problem.

Tom

Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:56 pm

For example, when you use, say, MS Word. You open document, make some modification, and press Ctlr+S (of, what is the same, use File -> Save command). Do you see any overwrite dialog or message. Can you say me any programm which shows such dialog?

About the font problem: thanks for the file, will take a look why this happens.

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:17 pm

Why must you be like MS?

I don't agree with them either.

General CADD Pro V5 gives a dialog!

Tom

Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:07 pm

Can say nothing about "General CADD Pro", because into demo version Save function is disabled at all. By the way, which Save function of it shows dialog: Save Drawing or Save As... ?

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:22 pm

Any Save command brings up the dialog!

Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:27 pm

Can you post a screenshot?

I cannot imagine this strange behaviour, sorry.

Why would I want every time I save document to confirm this? Looks like UAC under Vista, where on each your step OS ask "are you sure?"

Very irritating.

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:52 pm

Another example is IrfanView, a free image viewer.

Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:58 pm

ok understood, but how does this function "Save" differ from "Save As..". Looks like they have only "Save As...", but there is no simple "Save"

Post by **John - Tracker Supp** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:08 pm

Opinion here is divided as to whether a warning is a good thing or not before overwriting an existing file when using 'Save'.

So - as a compromise - in Build 20 we will allow you to set the desired behaviour (warning or no warning) when using 'Save' and the file name/location exists via the user preferences.

The warning will be set 'OFF' as a default behaviour.

HTH

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:13 pm

"Save as" lets the user change the file type, name or location.

"Save" just saves the file without allowing the other parameters to be changed. An overwrite option is just a measure of safety; an annoyance to some, a benefit to others.

Maybe put it in the options: confirm on save. (you beat me to it!!)

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:15 pm

Thanks!

Post by **John - Tracker Supp** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:18 pm

Pleasure

CONURE · Post by **CONURE** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:20 pm

Another approach to this save issue would be to confirm the save only the first time within a session and automatically overwrite all subsequent saves within that session.

benpal · Post by **benpal** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:57 am

Tracker Support wrote:Opinion here is divided as to whether a warning is a good thing or not before overwriting an existing file when using 'Save'.

For the sake of consistency, please no warning when using SAVE. I don't know of any Windows application which asks you to confirm when to save a file into itself.
If one doesn't want to save a file into itself, that's what the SAVE AS... function was invented for. PDF XChange Viewer even adds COPY to the name to prevent accidental overwriting.

benpal · Post by **benpal** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:00 am

CONURE wrote:Another approach to this save issue would be to confirm the save only the first time within a session and automatically overwrite all subsequent saves within that session.

Why do we need a special behavior just for this application when all other Windows applications don't ask for confirmation? User interfaces should be consistent in their behavior across all applications.

Post by **John - Tracker Supp** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:09 am

Whilst we agree with you Benpal and we do try and follow the established Windows conventions, so that behaviour is predictable - on this one we will not fight the issue.

But will add a simple option in the preferences to define whether a warning should appear or not. The default behaviour will be no warning.

V1.0 Build 0018 Issues

V1.0 Build 0018 Issues

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